Crisis of Conscience

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  How can anyone really be a 100% confident atheist given the paranormal and occult?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  i don't believe the bible is inerrant nor do i hold a 'christian worldview' any longer as my profile details say (which i am unable to update on my profile), but i just can't see how anyone can be absolutely 100% confident there is nothing out there we can call a 'god' or spirit creature in the face of endless first-hand accounts of paranormal and occult experiences that felt as 'real' to the person who experienced them as anything else in their lives.. there are untold reports of ghosts, faith-healing, ouija boards, seances, spirit mediums, stigmata, mystical born-again experiences, speaking in tongues, and then there's hypnotism, ufo sightings, poltergeists, remote viewing, etc, etc.

  ok, so its mostly only anecdotal evidence, but the amount of it is so overwhelming it is practically corroborating evidence.

  in the face of all this, how can anyone categorically assert that there is nothing out there that is beyond ourselves that we might call a 'god' or spirit creature?

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  OTWO said - I default to logical answers until they are proven wrong.

  I like that! LOL It's so much easier than trying to explain or defend what doesn't make sense. Thanks!

  CoC
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  I didn't take your advice and this is the result...

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  recently i told you all that i wanted to e-mail two friends some of the things i was struggling with in an effort to help them wake up or at least for them to understand me...97% of you all told me that it was a bad idea.

  i still decided to do it.

  so i e-mailed her sincerely asking questions on five points---1) health care flip flops 2) false prophecies 3) mediatorship of jesus 4) un 5)1918.. she replied about 8 hours after.

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  MsGG20 - Rephrase your question. You asked, what if they're right and I'm wrong?

  Start with being positive and ask yourself instead, what if I'm right and they're wrong? Give yourself some credit about waking up! LOL

  Then if you haven't already, read Ray Franz's and Steve Hassan's books and confirm your stand to yourself - it won't matter to your faithful friends, unless you choose to continue to be a JW.

  It's nice you want to help your friends. But it is usually an uphill, if not losing, battle.

  Good luck.

  CoC
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  The reason for my delay......

  by EndofMysteries in

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  for those waiting and wondering what my situation is right now.

  here is an illustration i think kind of explains it well.

  feel free to chime in what you think would be the right thing to do.

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  Video proof that the Governing Body was appointed FDS direcly by Jehovah

  by Badfish in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ued0olrd54.

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  LOL Loved it!
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  THE GOOD NEWS WILL BE POSTED LATER TODAY!!!!!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  a video will be posted later today where all the mysteries of god, the disgusting thing causing desolation, all the contradictions in the bible, why god in the old testament seemed so cruel, why was satan created if god is good, how is god love?

  all of the prophecies jesus had foretold which were hidden and lost yet being fullfilled the entire time.

  this is the good news that will then spread worldwide, and then the end will come.

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  Guess I better straighten up!
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  THE GOOD NEWS WILL BE POSTED LATER TODAY!!!!!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  a video will be posted later today where all the mysteries of god, the disgusting thing causing desolation, all the contradictions in the bible, why god in the old testament seemed so cruel, why was satan created if god is good, how is god love?

  all of the prophecies jesus had foretold which were hidden and lost yet being fullfilled the entire time.

  this is the good news that will then spread worldwide, and then the end will come.

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  Latest "Shun Your Family" Statement - Jan 2013 Study WT

  by LostGeneration in

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  solomon alluded to it yesterday in a thread, i found the online large print pdfs here, not sure where the regular version is yet.

  here are the full paragraphs, grab your barf bags .

  19 on the other hand, if you choose the path of resentment.

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  To echo one of the sentiments/comments on page 1 - IT'S A CULT!!
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  Telling family about "new light"

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  okay, now it's my turn to start a thread about the gb/fds "new light" now that it's been well covered by many threads.

  i've noticed that a few have brought this subject up with dub family who accepted wt "new light" without objection, saying that it "made sense" for the fds to only be the gb.

  so i have an idea of how to bring this up with my family in such a way that will highlight that this doesn't make sense... at all.. and the timing of this whole thing is incredibly convenient for me since it wasn't that long ago that this came up with my parents and i said that the wt interpretation of the fds in matthew was out-of-context and flawed.

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  Brilliant thread Billy! I'll have to see how I can incorporate the points into conversation too.

  Thanks!

  CoC
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  A big shift in the world is about to happen......

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i don't want to deceive anyone and i have to clarify a few things so i'm sorry this is going to be a lot more vague then you want.

  infact if you do not already realize or also feel something is about to happen as in the title, then move along, it will be a month or 2 before i update this.

  it's not my intention to annoy anybody, i am too uncomfortable to post any details because it's too new and i need to verify things, and i am also feeling responsible to give a subtle warning, that it might be something somebody needs to see.

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  Is annual meeting F&DS change a troll?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i went to the reddit site supposedly where the rumor started.

  anybody know that guy?

  unless i see notes, and how they explained it, if it was an hour long, or hear it, it's a troll for the moment.

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  For whatever its worth, I spoke to a Bethelite this weekend about the annual meeting. He brought up the change/"new light" and confirmed what has been said here. I didn't say much in return.

  I don't expect anyone to accept that from me per say. But hopefully I've built up a trustworthy reputation here.

  CoC